Saturday, November 1, 2008

The News about Obama's Birth Records

Well, I was listening the radio the other day and I heard something disturbing on it. Obama might not even be a U.S. citizen. Now, before you all go crazy on me, let me finish(and read this before you get mad at me..).
I was a bit put back by this, I never even thought that he wouldn't be a citizen, I simply thought he was a sell out. XD haha

Okay, I'm sorry that was a bit rude.
Anyway. So I decided to look online and see if there was any news about the alleged birth certificate. Boy oh boy did I find a buttload of pictures of that certificate. I tell you what!
But I don't know, they didn't really look very convincing to me. Mostly because I have taken photocopies of legal documents before. I've scanned them in and made copies of all sorts of things. Because sometimes you need to take copies of these things, like marriage certificates, auto titles, ect.. Just for you' know, certain stuff.
And they usually leave some sort of watermark when you copy them. These pictures did not.

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I can see something near the bottom of the image but I think that is just the date it was printed. Not sure though..Anyway, I also didn't like the fact that the letters and print look so..I dunno, perfect. When I requested my copy of birth from Califonia, where I was born, the letters were not perfect at all. They were actually a bit choppy. And even more-so, when you scan in a document into the computer to post it online or whatever, email, ect.. The letters rarely ever look this good. They should still have a bit of a choppy look to them. Especially if there is a background image behind the letters.

Here is an article from the Free Republic website about Obama's birth certificate: Was Obama's "Certificate of birth" Manufacured?

I personally found the article very assounding, to say the least. I was about to accept that this certificate was real until I took in my own personal experience with such documents, and after reading this article into context.

So in conclusion, Obama might not even be a U.S. citizen, this man should be made to produce his original certificate to the American public before the election.(like that'll happen but it would be nice)
There is also a rumor saying that the Gov. of Hawaii is hiding said document from the public. Whether this is true or not, I do not know. All I know is that this document that I am looknig at on my screen looks very fishy. And I don't like the idea of electing a person that is not a citizen of the U.S. into office.

P.S. In case you all get confused about what I mean when I say 'citizen'.
I mean, if he was not born in the U.S. then he is not a citizen to be elected to office. Same as Arnold, who is the gov. of Califonia. He is not allowed to run for President because he was not born here, even if he's a citizen now. Does not matter.

P.S.S. Here is a picture of an actual birth certificate from the year Obama should have been born. It looks nothing like the one he has produced. I want the actual hard copy birth record, before I can be convinced. If he has nothing to hide then it should be no problem to produce.
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anonymous said...

The problem is that Obama wont provide the vault certificate which shows the doctor/hospital etc. despite I think six lawsuits. Dr. Chiyome Fukino said today she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Obviously Hawaii has a document but the question is not whether they have his original certificate, but whether that certificate indicates he was actually born in the U.S. and not born the child of a Hawaiian citizen abroad. The latter of which is what has been alleged by Philip J. Berg based on an eyewitness account of Obama's birth in Kenya from his paternal grandmother. Up to l972, a child over the age of one in Hawaii could get a birth certificate by an affidavit of the mother that he was born at home.... The US deserves the facts!

If Barack Obama ultimately wins on Tuesday, this issue is not going to go away without the official "vault" birth certificate being produced. I hope there isnt a constitutional crisis.. I hope Obama is not like John edwards (love child), Sptizer (prostitution) and McGreevy (gaylifestyle) who ran for office hoping these problems would not show up.
Of course this entire issue would go away if Barack Obama would simply authorize the release of the document. Why does he continue to fight this issue and not just put it to rest?

smrstrauss said...

This sounds like the nut who was convinced that the government had implanted a radio in his head to control him, and so a friend took him to have an MRI, which naturally showed that there was no radio.

But the nut was not convinced. He said “Ah! But can you prove that that is really an MRI of me?” So they called in the MRI operator, who certified that that MRI was the MRI of the nut. But the nut was still not convinced. He said: “He certifies that that MRI is an MRI of me. But how do we know that he is not working for the government?"

In your case you are saying that even though the officials in Hawaii, who have no reason to lie, have given the impression that they have evidence that Obama is a naturally-born USA citizen, they are misleading us in some way. They are deliberately misleading us.

You are saying that the officials in Hawaii, having seen Obama’s file and from its contents knowing that Obama was either (1) not born in the USA, or (2) has legally become a citizen of another country at a later date (which is a more complicated issue. It is probably legally impossible for a natural born child to lose his citzenship, no matter what his parents may have done) have issued a statement implying that there is nothing wrong with his claim to be a natural born US citizen.

The obvious question is why?

To be sure, their statement was carefully written. (So what. Why should it have been sloppy?)

But why was it carefully written in Obama’s favor? Are these two officials Democrats? (Probably not. They were appointed by a Republican governor.)

Moreover, if it subsequently turns out that Obama was not born in Hawaii or had something in his file along the lines of losing his citizenship, then they, who had said that there was nothing wrong, would be subject to criticism at the very least. They could be accused of being part of a conspiracy, or of a fraud, and at the least they would not get a job in a Republican administration again. So why would they do it?

Thus, the officials had absolutely no reason to lie about what they saw in Obama’s file. And they had absolutely no reason to MISLEAD by issuing a statement that implies they saw something more in Obamas file, when all that they saw was the “certificate of live birth.” Their statement implies that they saw something that confirms the certificate of live birth. In fact, they said that they saw his birth certificate.

All of which indicates beyond a reasonable doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii. Moreover, all the allegations that he was born in Kenya now look pretty empty, since the guys who claimed to have evidence proving that Obama was born in Kenya have never released the evidence.

So, why won’t Obama release his birth certificate?

Possibly because it shows that his mother and father were not married.

That is embarassing, but it is not a constitutional grounds for barring someone for being president. Maybe some people would vote against a bastard. Others would vote for him anyway. In any case, that is Obama’s decision to make. You are welcome to vote against him because you feel that he is not a citizen, or because he is a bastard, or because you don’t agree with his policies, or because he was associated with terrorists.

But you could do that anyway. The content of the files and the fact that Obama did not release them does not change the situation.

What has changed? The constitutional issue over whether Obama was born in the USA. That is required in the Constitution. The Hawaii officials have confirmed that he was born in the USA. He is therefore eligible to be president.

forumandblog said...

So then technically John McCain can't be running for President either since He was born in the Panama Canal Zone which is out of the United States. And the US Constitution clearly states Natural Born Citizens can run. A military base is not completely considered US Soil.

You know I usually like your blog because you have a lot of good defense towards McCain. Now you and everyone else are just pulling stuff out of the air. Other then this post keep up the good work.

Wendy said...

Uhh..I'm going to just reply to certain comments here.

The comment about the document being misleading, they are. They look fake and I found an actual copy of a Hawaiian birth certificate from the year that Obama should have been born in, 1963. It doesn't look a thing like the one the Dems produced. So until he, Obama, produces a hard copy of the original i'm not gonig to believe for one minute that he is a natural U.S. citizen.

Being born on a U.S. base is more on U.S. soil than being born in a whole other country. Also, McCain's parents were both U.S. citizens prior to him being born for more than 10 years so it qualifies him to run for president.

forumandblog said...

Fine McCain was still born in a whole other country.

Panama is a WHOLE other country. I'm sorry this particular argument holds nothing. I'm glad that this post you made is your personal opinion though.

The Natural Born Citizen Law is against both of them this time around and the only one that technically can win in your argument is the Independent this time around.

forumandblog said...

Delete my previous comment because it shows how tired I am today.

Im astonished that you can actually fall for this stuff. How much of your life are you wasting on this? Surely, the FEC, FBI, CIA, and the IRS have made certain that his birth certificate (the original) does exist and is authentic. You really think those agencies are gonna be out-investigated by well…you? (then again our government still hasn't found Bin Laden)

Honestly I'm voting McCain, so I really shouldn't care about this. But I feel Obama is a Natural Born US Citizen. He was born in Hawaii no question here. Your believing everything Republicans throw your way, and honestly you need to be smarter then that. The way things are looking Obama may very well be President as of Tuesday. Not to thrilled about it if thats the case but what can you do? Besides trash talk from each party.....